Negotiation with HR
I interviewed for a company called tooljet, cleared all the rounds.
During the negotiation with HR, in the later stages of negotiation I had asked few questions like
- Is there any Esops(no)
- Appraisal cycle(it's a startup, depends on performance)
- Promotion possibility(it's a startup so depends on the performance)
- Performance bonus(it's a startup depends on performance) no range given
- Medical insurance ( it's a startup so no)
- Probation period(3 months)
- Leave policy(21 days yearly, can't take more than 3 days consecutively) the head of product and tech lead said it will be unlimited
- Public holidays(national holidays yes + 1 day for diwali) so 5-6 days I'm assuming
- Work from home expenses if any?(no)
- Working hours(10-7, it's a startup so you might have to work long hours)
- Working days( 5 days)
- Notice period( 1 month)
- Joining date(tomorrow) lol, I asked her to defer it by a week
1st call was regarding my expectations ( she said she will give me 30-35% increment on previous) 2nd call was about her offer(gave me 23%) 3rd call was regarding all these questions 4th call I accepted asked her to defer it by a week 5th call she said no, saying you asked a lot of questions, we want someone who can focus on the growth of our startup and not worry about these things. I never got a chance to negotiate, she never accepted or even bothered to listen to any of my requests. I asked her to increase it by 30% and she didn't even bother to listen and refused it. Her entire attitude was , take it or leave it. She said she can't negotiate each and every day,and I barely got a chance to even negotiate. Did I say anything wrong or is the HR stupid?
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Very red flag sounding startup. You cannot use seeing startup as an excuse for everything
I think you just dodged a big one
HR is being too cruel or could be intern to HR something and might be her first job. Directly talk with founders and get esops set straight + holidays etc. If they are well funded get things as they are
Also research more on the HR check her linkedin also the company might be on hiring freeze. If they don’t losten play a game and accept the offer then reject it saying you got better offer if they come back they will give you what you deserve or can just move on
Major Red Flag, avoid this ‘startup’ at all costs
Good riddance
You my friend seemed to have dodged a bullet, Can you tell more about the role they were hiring for... Did it involve dealing with clients ? I'm seeing most roles these days have some or the other variable payment component linked to deals/projects being through or not... Irrespective of the amount of efforts involved.
What salary were they offering and for how many YOE?
HRs do that as a negotiation tactic. They make you feel like you did something wrong so you feel guilty and accept. Don't give in. Stand your ground but be respectful.
Don’t join, red flags only
Good that you couldn't get into this statup. You would have hated the environment.