Indian Startups14mo
by SleepyBananaPhonePe
JumpyJellybean
Dukaan CTO moved out of cloud to save cost, risk analysis?
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PeppyNarwhal
Swiggy20mo
Must be using physical servers in that case. It will be a SPOF if anything happens to the servers like getting a 🔥🔥. Managing them can be a little tricky.
BouncyPickle
Dukaan20mo
GCP had a water leak and fire event and the entire eu-west9 region (entire region not just the zone) was gone.
Do read this very interesting incident report - https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/dS9ps52MUnxQfyDGPfkY
Their workaround? And i quote - "Customers can failover to zones in other regions.".
Now ask around and find out how many of you can actually failover to other region if something like that happened in India?
You will be shocked.
MagicalQuokka
Stealth20mo
Even the cloud uses physical servers under the hood. The difference is in control over the servers and the costs.
They could have on-premise, baremetal or any other non-cloud config. I'm not sure which one they're using.
MagicalQuokka
Stealth20mo
Many companies are successfully managing their own on-premise infra to save costs. It's not anything new or rocket science, this is how stuff was before the cloud in the last 15-20 years.
What risks do you see that aren't there on the cloud and meaningful enough to not enjoy the cost savings? Scaling? People have solved for that. Orchestration? Kubernetes works with baremetal and on-premise too. Redundancy is cheaper to ensure. I can name many more.
DHH has done god's work in spreading the gospel of moving back to on-premise. It would be interesting to see where this trend goes.
DancingBiscuit
What’s DHH? Btw moving back is not the trend, cost cutting is. Twitter moved back to onprem, but their reasoning is outlier (EM).
SparklyPancake
Stealth20mo
David Heineimeier Hansen, creator of Ruby on Rails, Le Mans driver, cool tech guy with a lot of contrarian opinions and almost a cult following.
SparklyNugget
Stealth20mo
How is Dukaan doing in terms of revenue and fund raise?
CosmicWaffle
M2P Fintech20mo
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JumpyJellybean
Stealth20mo
Who asks funds raised in 2023 🤌
PrancingMochi
Netskope20mo
What a lot of people are missing here is they are serving customers in India only (unless I'm wrong) and they're doing it with a team of 4 (CTO, 1 FTE, 2 Interns) which is probably how they managed to achieve it.
Details on size and number of DCs is not spoken of. Someone here suggested they're using physical servers, am not so sure since on the twitter thread he shared a list of DCaaS providers in India (that he found on reddit) and I believe he may be using those.
Honestly seems like a knee-jerk reaction to cutting costs since there were rumors about profitability or funding drying up (can't speak to how true these rumors are)
I say this because last year their CTO was on CorpChat Discord boasting about their beefy edge machines (memory in TBs or something) and have about 50 or 100 edge POPs and now they can't optimize their cloud costs?
I feel for their engineer and interns, physical servers are no joke, and they would need more headcount sooner than later, beating the whole point.
WigglyMuffin
Stealth20mo
They are probably running everything from a single location, hint just go to one of their store like recent one tweeted like bioayurveda.com , open network tab in chrome and see headers for actual page document you we see headers about which edge location is serving this , I tried multiple locations using vpn everything served from what appears to be vultr mumbai
PrancingMochi
Netskope20mo
LMAO if this is true, the CorpChat AMA I'm referring to is complete BS. People should be wary of what these founders are hype-tweeting.
DancingBiscuit
Apparently he comes from hosting reseller background.
MagicalWalrus
Stealth20mo
10,00,000 on Prem servers!! Seriously?? Curious to know more in detail. Thank you.
SnoozyBanana
Stealth20mo
The last startup I worked at raised 25 million and moved their servers inside the CEOs home. 🙂
QuirkyMarshmallow
Walmart20mo
I would be wary of security on-prem unless there is a large budget. How about compliance, are they going to get their servers and network PCI certified. Just one leak is all it takes to bring the company down.
SparklyBanana
PhonePe20mo
They should just return investor money to save time
QuirkyPotato
Stealth20mo
Bet thy are using Openstack
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