SparklyMuffin
SparklyMuffin

Why I make my PM team deliver food orders - no exceptions

Hey GV folks, long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I'm a product leader at Zomato, managing a team of 8 PMs. Today, I want to share a practice that's become the cornerstone of our product philosophy - and it all started with me being "punished" by my first manager.

At the cost of self praising, this is some really good advice so I hope you’re able to extract the maximum value out of this.

Five years ago, I was a cocky new PM, fresh out of a fancy consulting gig. I thought I knew everything about our users based on data and surveys.

My wake-up call came when I royally screwed up a feature release. Instead of firing me, my manager did something unconventional - she made me spend a week as a delivery partner.

I was pissed. Riding around Bangalore in the March heat, navigating traffic, dealing with hangry customers - how was this supposed to make me a better PM? But on day three, while waiting for an order outside Truffles (fellow Bangaloreans, you know the wait I'm talking about), I struck up a conversation with a few seasoned delivery partners.

What I learned in those 30 minutes blew my mind. They shared hacks they'd developed, pain points I'd never considered, and insights about customer behavior that no amount of data could have revealed. I realized I'd been building features in a vacuum, completely disconnected from the real world our app operated in.

That week changed everything. I rewrote our entire product roadmap based on what I learned. The results? Our delivery partner satisfaction scores shot up, and our order completion rates improved significantly.

Since then, I've made it a point to spend one day every month doing deliveries. It keeps me grounded, provides constant insights, and reminds me who we're really building for.

When I started managing other PMs, I knew I had to institutionalize this practice. Now, it's mandatory for everyone on my team to do a delivery day once a month. No exceptions.

At first, there was resistance. "We have data for this," they'd argue. "I can't waste a whole day delivering food!" But after their first experience, they got it. Now, our team meetings are buzzing with insights from the field.

Here's why I believe every product manager should regularly step into their users' shoes:

  1. Data doesn't tell the whole story: Numbers can show you what's happening, but not why. Real interactions reveal the context behind the data.
  2. Empathy drives innovation: When you experience user pain points firsthand, you're more motivated to solve them creatively.
  3. It challenges assumptions: Nothing humbles you faster than realizing your "brilliant" feature is actually a pain to use in the real world.
  4. It builds credibility: When you can say "I've done this myself," your team and stakeholders listen differently.
  5. It's a reminder of impact: In the daily grind of KPIs and metrics, it's easy to forget that we're affecting real people's lives. This practice keeps that front and center.

Some practical tips if you want to try this:

  • Don't just observe. Actually do the job.
  • Engage in conversations. Users (and front-line workers) are usually eager to share their experiences if you show genuine interest.
  • Look for workarounds and hacks. These are gold mines for product insights.
  • Pay attention to the environment and context in which your product is used.
  • Reflect on the experience immediately after. What surprised you? What frustrated you?

To my fellow PMs out there: when was the last time you truly stepped into your users' shoes? If it's been a while, I challenge you to give it a try. You might just find your next big product breakthrough while waiting to pick up someone’s 1 am order from Empire :)

P.S. Took a photo while waiting for my order, would probably have been fired long back had it not been for this evening!

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GroovyBoba
GroovyBoba

Why does your post sounds like some made up bullshit Gyaan I see on LinkedIn everyday.

SparklyMuffin
SparklyMuffin
Zomato10mo

Would have posted this on LinkedIn for more potential virality.

Feel this post belongs here; I've been seeing a lot of good notes here - sharing notes from my team's onboarding deck.

Feel free to pick and selectively choose as you see fit :)

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

If a delivery platform PM doesn't actually try using product, the platform wouldn't last very long haha.

Check out this product tear down of blinkit (literally) by a PM on Twitter who signed up to see things for herself - https://x.com/itspsneha/status/1820067090516078863?t=a02au_x7wE7-ZtK-GpwLTA&s=19

It's not enough to have internal PMs doing deliveries, external eyes often bring fresh perspective. The kind of consultants that actually should get hired but don't because companies think they can do it internally.

SparklyBiscuit
SparklyBiscuit
Tekion10mo

Tldr please

SparklyMuffin
SparklyMuffin
Zomato10mo

Nahi hai bhai tldr iska - poora padhna padega, nahi toh pooch lo ChatGPT ko :)

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Swiggy10mo

Dude does food delivery once a month to understand user experience and use that to improve product. Also mandated it for whole team

GigglyPenguin
GigglyPenguin

If one of the goals is to improve delivery partner satisfaction scores, isn’t asking the delivery partners for feedback the obvious thing to do?

Data will always abstract real world experiences.

SparklyMuffin
SparklyMuffin
Zomato10mo

What a good PM brings to the table is insights, not just feedback.

A user never knows they wanted this feature till they start using it and it's so obvious - the only way you can figure these insights is by being in their shoes, not just talking to them.

Foolproof strategy to bring the voice of the user to your org.

GigglyPenguin
GigglyPenguin

Can you provide an example? In your particular experience.

WigglyBurrito
WigglyBurrito

@ProfitableParable Thanks for sharing this! You really nail what being a product manager is all about. Getting your hands dirty, seeing things from the users' perspective, and turning those insights into better products - that's the essence of great PM work. Your story shows how stepping out of the office and into users' shoes can completely transform a product roadmap. It's a powerful reminder that the best product insights often come from real-world experiences, not just data and surveys.

Keep spreading this wisdom!

SqueakyCupcake
SqueakyCupcake

wow, chatgpt asked for some more wisdom!

ZippyPretzel
ZippyPretzel
Mapfre10mo

F off mate. We don't need your bs story

FloatingTaco
FloatingTaco

I don't mean to nitpick but from your monologue it seems you gained the most insights from a 30 min conversation. So is it fair to assume that there was not enough merit travelling around and maybe asking the right questions be a better roi of your time. I have been groomed by a few exceptional product leaders and what I loved was their altruism and critical thinking and not process excellence. They would quite literally focus on building better methods to capture what's happening on ground than take the sword and go fighting.That way they would excel in any domain with little to no knowledge but with good mental models for problem solving. Maybe going on the ground works for a delivery focus world, but what do you do when you define the user journey , such as in NFT or AR? If I were you i would experiment with my methods at work and people management and constantly learn from my mistakes rather than making it mandate.... However there are just my opinions so be the best judge, at the end of the day you have to answer questions from Mr Deepinder and not I. Good luck!

WigglyLlama
WigglyLlama

I cannot believe your story. If I was your manager I would use data, develop hypothesis, use primary, secondary data, statistical methods etc to get to the decision. Why would your manager ask you to do a job that you didn't sign up for? A leader with sane mind can't do such thing. So I fail to believe. A leader doesn't have to do it first or gets hands dirty and show to everyone around how macho one is. That's more like being a thug, where in your have to show how skillful at the job for others to learn from your actions. This is a flawed reasoning.

Lol I reject your hypotheses.

CosmicDumpling
CosmicDumpling
InMobi10mo

@FreeThinker The job you sign up for is making a better product and experience around it.

PrancingPotato
PrancingPotato

Without doubt, should be done, this should be a non negotiable for PMs. Could be part of design thinking exercise. I am in B2B PM, I usually go and sit with my client team in their office and observe what they do and interact to why they do that. Part of user research to understand user better. Work wonders!

SnoozyNoodle
SnoozyNoodle
KPMG10mo

I’ve been trying to get into Product Management (I’m a business analyst currently) any advice or guidance you can give me?

WigglyLlama
WigglyLlama
KPMG10mo

On the same boat... Can we prepare together

SnoozyNoodle
SnoozyNoodle
KPMG10mo

Sure sounds good!

PeppyRaccoon
PeppyRaccoon
Intel10mo

I remember us doing warehouse visits and doing deliveries at swiggy as well. So I can definitely vouch for the process although I am a data guy but the process really helps you gain a new perspective towards the way you look at data

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