PrancingNugget
PrancingNugget

Why are Indian startups so obsessed with Micromanagement? i.e. WFO

I have been talking to a few companies, across different size bands. Only Indian startups seem to obsessed with full week WFO/Micromanagement.

A few years back, startups were known for being more flexible, now it just seems to be the reverse.

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SwirlyRaccoon
SwirlyRaccoon
Target16mo

I know a lot of folks will not agree, but when it comes to accountability (+ some integrity), the vast majority are really really behind. Those who show some are stomped up on as well.

The only way to get over this might be to micromanage. I'm not in support of it, but I myself have been seeing a change around me because of some people, a few others will also have to suffer from micro-management. Yes, it's not easy on me/my mind, but the work is moving a bit more.

I've seen this at a lot of places. I usually trust others with things, but the results have more often disappointed me. Now, I just delegate only of it's really required.

FuzzyMuffin
FuzzyMuffin
CARS2416mo

Completely agreed

SwirlyRaccoon
SwirlyRaccoon
Target16mo

I can't think of any other reason why companies are calling back people to office as well.

GroovyWaffle
GroovyWaffle

Would it look good if they only call the underperforming junta to the office and let others stay at home?

PrancingNugget
PrancingNugget
Slice16mo

Fire the underperforming junta instead of punishing everyone with letting go of 3 more hours of their lives everyday.

And frankly, underperformers will underperform even with their (micro)managers breathing down their necks. We aren't school children to be supervised by teachers.

GroovyWaffle
GroovyWaffle

People getting fired because of underperformance in remote would want the company to make an effort to help fix it rather than directly fire them. By reducing the possible factors of underperformance

GoofyPotato
GoofyPotato

WFO not necessarily means micromanagement. Seems you have gotten your fiest job in covid times, and now you are not ready to go back to normal

PrancingNugget
PrancingNugget
Slice16mo

Nope, I was in my 4th job.

Once we have been introduced to a superior system, we don't go back to an inferior one only because we used it before. I have also spent most of my life doing cash transactions, but I won't go back to it in India, now that we have UPI.

GoofyPotato
GoofyPotato

You would go back to cash as soon as the network goes down. WFH is not a superior system, it’s just one more system

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

Because there are only two types of startups

  1. Bootstrapped- when I invest my personal savings amount going to be extra cautious of what is being done. I can't afford failure.
  2. Investor money - I can achieve generational wealth in a couple of years. The more I micromanage the more I make in a shorter time. I need to make my wealth before investors realise the scam.
PrancingNugget
PrancingNugget
Slice16mo

You are making the assumption that micromanagement leads to better outcomes.

CosmicLlama
CosmicLlama

Micromanagent leads to better outcomes. For company -maybe or may not For the founder - yes.

SquishyPotato
SquishyPotato

I have heard about a shit co,
Every week a whole day is spent reviewing what the engineer/manager/pm did in a week. Against their names.
Absolutely bull shit. No wfh, work 24*7. Wish no one gets into that place

SnoozyWalrus
SnoozyWalrus

Name the company and enlighten us please !!!

PrancingNugget
PrancingNugget
Slice16mo

Name and shame.

DancingQuokka
DancingQuokka

People want to control the life of employees. They think that they have bought the employee for full time (24X7X365). Very few folks believe that the job is just a means to live life rather than entire life itself.

It's the same philosophy which goes into deciding WFH vs WFO.

I know a few people(HoD, SVPs, VPs) who consider WFH to be a leave. That says a lot about a person.

BubblyNoodle
BubblyNoodle
TCS16mo

Pagal kar dia hai, bipolar founder going nuts, if I complete thing independently he feels fomo, if I take his help he feels lack of ownership 😅🤣 Pata nai, subah subah konsi book padhle aur uss par chalne lge, Ekdum Random

WobblyPenguin
WobblyPenguin
Student16mo

Name and shame brother!

JazzyBurrito
JazzyBurrito
Oracle16mo

2023 - Come to office because we need "culture" 2024- You're fired as we've replaced you with chatGPT

BouncyNugget
BouncyNugget

it's a hallmark of Indian culture. people don't like individualism. And they also want to gossip.

PerkyNarwhal
PerkyNarwhal

I'm currently working in a series A startup. Some serious shady business. The founders only have an inner circle who know what is going on. They replaced the entire tech team just because they had a fully remote policy before and suddenly realised they want everyone in office 5 days a week. Doesn't matter that the 2 of the 3 founders live abroad and most senior management people don't come to the office.
Also hiring people behind employees back, labelling it as 'confidential hiring' and once the new employee comes in, they tell the existing employee to resign

WobblyPenguin
WobblyPenguin
Student16mo

Name and shame please! It helps everyone avoid such companies

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