ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

The rot in our state

Why do Indians have this compulsive need to shit on other Indians?

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ZippyBiscuit
ZippyBiscuit

Police officers are also human beings. I see nothing wrong in them following their religious practices. As a Hindu if you want to follow your dharma, it is asked to avoid eating in vessels which have been used by malecchas.

I actually applaud the police officer, despite the general societal pressure to appear secular, he is following his dharma.

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

@ffnn malecchas?

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GigglyNarwhal
GigglyNarwhal
Bosch14mo

The incident is pathetic and the person could have survived a few minutes without tea or coffee or food or whatever. Also I'm not against being secular that's surely the ideal way to live. However I'd like to point out that there's no freedom of religion in muslim majority countries which is really sad and concerning. So all people promoting secularism in India must keep in mind before aggressively defending it. Just saying draw your conclusions with logic.

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

It's not just about being secular but also respectful of another human being. Why ask someone else to finish his beverage?

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

I think the courts disagree with you. Police is meant to be secular, so is the state and its machinery.

Small example - Police force should have secular image; no right under Article 25 for police personnel to keep a beard: Allahabad High Court

https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/police-force-secular-image-no-right-article-25-keep-a-beard-allahabad-high-court

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

@ffnn

QuirkyCoconut
QuirkyCoconut

"Police are meant to be secular" means they can't discriminate between people on the basis of religion. They still have full rights to follow their own. You won't call out a muslim police officer for refusing to eat pork, will you? @LooseGoose

SnoozyPanda
SnoozyPanda

I don't know how much prevalent it is, but you'll get the same instances in the south too. I have not seen it but heard from people who experienced it.

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

It happens every where, yes. But the point of state machinery is to be secular. Otherwise there's not much point in a partial police and judiciary which will favour their people/community over others.

QuirkyCoconut
QuirkyCoconut

@LooseGoose I always offer my leftovers to friends and vice versa, our intentions are to avoid food wastage. If I was offered something like this from a police officer, it would be my decision to do or not to do it.
Bonus tip: Your last statement shifts the focus from the main debate and makes you look like you're losing it. @LooseGoose

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

The key word in your example being friends. I specifically asked about stranger/outsider because I knew you're trying to shift the focus yourself :)

I don't think I need to tell you what basic manners and respectful behaviour is when it comes to people you meet for the first time. You know very well.

Trying to justify this cop's behaviour is pretty sad buddy. You should really introspect and study your biases. Being smug and acting as if nothing's wrong about this situation isn't going to help improve our country. This is exactly why people like her want to get their passport and leave. At least she won't be treated like an untouchable abroad.

QuirkyCoconut
QuirkyCoconut

@LooseGoose I'm trying to form a constructive debate that includes logic, reasoning, and facts. A random tweet of a random person on a random incident does not deserve my attention. Usually the internet is filled with made up garbage stories, but even if it is true, the police officer has full right to ask you to do something, and you've the right to refuse to do it.

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

Having a right and misusing it are two different things. Have you ever been asked to finish a stranger/outsider's leftover food or beverage? Have you ever offered someone like this? Would you?

Because it sure seems like you're trying to defend it.

QuirkyCoconut
QuirkyCoconut

@LooseGoose I never justified the cop's behaviour in this made up or real story, my point was always that you have the right to refuse. You're simply projecting your perception into my personality to win an argument. I'm trying to keep this conversation constructive. Your last paragraph is a perfect example of a straw man fallacy, so I'm not gonna respond to that. But here's my opinion to keep this debate on track: People in this country (regardless of their job title) have the right to follow their religion. A person CAN ask for separate utensils, CAN refuse to eat wherever and whenever they want, and CANNOT force someone else to respect their ways of living.

FloatingUnicorn
FloatingUnicorn

Woooowww ,I bet all the Hindu gods are proud of this moron. Hindus are becoming a joke like muslims now

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