WigglyPancake
WigglyPancake

india's cast system

guys , I have some questions about India's caste system. Firstly, who do you think is responsible for the caste system in India?

Secondly, was the condition of Dalits worse before or after the arrival of the British?

And thirdly, is the society developing in such a way in 'New India' that the caste system seems to be reducing?

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GigglyBurrito
GigglyBurrito
  1. Religiously, there is no cast system in hindusim. There is only a varna system.

  2. Modern day cast system is a British construct. But the problem is, we all have been ideologically subverted so much so that if you will tell the actual truth, people will not accept this.

  3. I’m still yet to figure out how the hell british did cast census in early 19th century.

  4. Aryan invasion theory is useless and it has nothing to do with cast system. It solely divides people based on the race like south and north. And it is already been debunked.

  5. Wrt pt 4, there is a speech I heard from j sai deepak. He said, there is a very popluar documented episode of maharana pratap taking helps from bheels and gonds. And fyi, bheels and gonds comes under tribal community (if I’m not wrong). So, how come there is discrimination here.

  6. The current discrimination is the result of ideological subversion of hindus for almost 250 yrs. To remove these discrimination, every hindu needs to read history right from 1106 or even before that.

There are so many things to explore in history. Not the history we have been taught in college. That is a marxist and propaganda history, absolute piece of shit.

I mean we can have a very long discussion about these things, specially among youth.

GigglyBurrito
GigglyBurrito

V. imp- There are no such thing called as dalits in shastras. We have panchamas.

DizzyBiscuit
DizzyBiscuit

Tbh - Just for such logical discussions, I wish we had Audio chat options in gv similar to discord.

JumpyNoodle
JumpyNoodle
Siply16mo
  1. Aryans and their vedas
  2. British was against casteism in theory. So somewhat better.
  3. It hasn’t reduced. But it has been normalised in a different way compared to 60-70 years ago
SparklyBoba
SparklyBoba
  1. due to rise in indic cultural civilisation and right wing in political env, in next decade or so they will revert of thos concept. Don’t know who you will be right or which side will win.

  2. No matter what concept you name this , there always will be discrimination and divide. Chanakya too knew about this, he was although better statecraft to handle it.

  3. modern day caste , caste system is colonial construct, by this i mean Indian cultural has different social way of discrimination and divide, but Indian politicians in British raaj connected it with social idea of western society.

  4. Problem is leftist and rightist, leftist will connect this with western social construct and whereas rightist have no clue how to deal with it bcoz they are main divider and discriminator

PrancingSushi
PrancingSushi
Oracle16mo

Casts are there in Asia from long ago during Aryan invasion , but casts are not only limited to Hindu religion cast is nothing but division of people based on the race of the people, I have seen cast division in muslims as well as in Christians too.

PrancingNoodle
PrancingNoodle
Zopper16mo
  1. First describe what is definition of caste? Cause native language dont have any corresponding word. There are terms like kul,jaati,varrn,etc. Be precise,in indic terms.

  2. Read the speech of Macluay 2nd feb 1835(have snaps but uploading pictures here not allowed). You will get the behaviour of common people in his speech. Also read the survey conducted at that time.

You will reach the conclusion on your own(hint from my side: Caste termed by britishers cause of their language inadequency and also easy to segregate and divide)

SillyDonut
SillyDonut
TCS16mo
  1. I don't know

  2. After arrival of Britishers, zamindari system came into picture and casteism increased. Dalits were mere labourers with very less rights.

  3. Ambedkar said to bring reservation for 10y and then revisit but now it's a tool for votebank. Casteism is increasing within obc sc st also as a rich sc will not marry a poor and obc will not marry st. So casteism can't be cured by reservation but yes economic development which will take time.

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